Update on Confederate history month

McDonnell looks weak and pathetic by bowing to pressure.  He apologized for omitting reference in his proclamation to slavery.  Governor, you ignorant puke, this was never about slavery or apologizing. This was the liberals making you look bad and insuring that the black vote will remain solidly Democrat.   You could never please that group, so don’t try. Your apology only makes you appear weak and feckless.

From the Times Dispatch:  “Despite McDonnell’s attempt to calm the waters, his apology didn’t quell the anger among Democrats.”

“I don’t give a rip if he does apologize. It’s too little and much too late,” said Sen. Louise L. Lucas, D-Portsmouth, who is black. “It’s the latest in a series of missteps that sends the wrong message.”

“And the apology could alienate his base, said Steve Farnsworth, a political scientist at George Mason University, who called the original proclamation “a serious political mistake.”

11 responses to “Update on Confederate history month

  1. “McDonnell looks weak and pathetic by bowing to pressure. He apologized for omitting reference in his proclamation to slavery…” Your apology only makes you appear weak and feckless…”

    So John, yer another one of those characters that believes…The Civil War is just a euphemism for, what more correctly should be referred to as The War of Northern Aggression …?

    Yeh can’t kid, a kidder, John!

  2. Lipton T. Bagg

    But John is correct. The proclamation should have never been about slavery. It was about Virginia history, and setting the table for tourism trade by highlighting the cultural heritage of Virginia.

    No one in their right mind can believe any modern day Governor is pardoning the abhorrence that slavery is/was. Only foolish, simple minded people – such as Liberals – who try to writhe and moan for political gain try to sell that.

    McDonnell kowtowing to that group, instead of letting the action stand on the merits of what it was, didn’t show character – in fact, IMHO a distinct lack thereof.

    Moral character can be defined broadly as the ability to stand for what’s right and good – even if it’s unpopular. McDonnell’s original action was an attempt to cast good light on the history of the state (and perhaps a quick reach-around to his Conservative constituents – I’m not close enough to state politics to have an opinion on that – but it’s NOT because Conservatives condone slavery). Allowing that to fall into political race-baiting is tantamount to “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”.

  3. I don’t believe that he was trying to curry favor with the Sons of the Confederacy crowd. There was no hue and cry to have him make a proclamation. I think he was just naive. He did not know how much the liberals would put up a stink. Either don’t make the initial proclamation, or by God, live with it.

  4. Sorry, Gramps, if I seem skeptical of your claims to have served. One of my dearest friends always claimed to have served as a marine in Vietnam. After his untimely death, I googled him to learn more, and found that his Obit (prepared, presumably by his family, who know) claimed that he had served in Okinawa and never mentioned Vietnam. His father was a decorated WWII pilot and definitely (I think) would have mentioned service in Nam.


    So if a buddy I knew could make invalid claims, somebody I don’t know could likewise make such claims…

  5. John said ”…I googled him to learn more, and found that his Obit (prepared, presumably by his family, who know) claimed that he had served in Okinawa and never mentioned Vietnam….

    Well now that’s interesting. From late 1961 to sometime in late 1963 or perhaps early 1964, there was a so called Secret War goin’ on in Vietnam. If you were assigned to the 1st SF,ABn, like I was; your APO always remained Okinawa and your orders never made any reference to Vietnam.

    On my first two TDY deployments we wore only civilian clothes; we used mostly 9mm selective fire, European weapons, Danish French, German and Swedish in origin. My first deployment in uniform was in1965 and my APO was still Okinawa. How about them apples, John?

    May be you owe your olde buddy an apology after all these years..?


  6. Hey, I hope I’m wrong. Your comment adds to that hope. I’m just looking at this logically.

    Wouldn’t your mother and father know you served in Nam? His father (WWII ace) and mother are still alive. And they otherwise put gloss on facts known to me. He graduated from law school but repeatedly flunked the bar exam and never became a lawyer. His obit read to the effect: “graduated from law school X and was associated with the law firm of XXX” [he was a non lawyer investigator–seems semi disingenius to me to use that phrase “associated with”]. If they went to that length to make his career sound exciting, why not mention that he served in Nam? Wouldn’t you want your obit to inform people of that?

    Hey, maybe you met him. He was the grandson of a governor.

  7. John wrote…Hey, maybe you met him. He was the grandson of a governor.

    If he was a jarhead on Oki, the only place we might have met, would have been in some knock-down, drag-out in Koza, Naha or Kadena?

    My thought is; as a Marine, early on in the war, he could have been based as security at an Embassy or other quasi-official assignment? I’m not sure what year the Marines got fully involved in combat. I know in 65,66 and 67 they flew H34 choppers into our outposts and camps and flew air support for us in F4 phantoms.

    Semper Fi…!

  8. Lipton T. Bagg

    My father was one of the first Marine officers to enter Vietnam during the “secret” war period. He went in early 1962, TDY’d from Point Magu, CA CBC (SeeBees, Sir!) to “Okinawa”. Any correspondence received from him was via Okinawa, and with later deployments, APO SF.

    This correlates to present day use of Armed Forces Post Offices in SF and NY. Since most of my overseas work was in Europe and Middle East, my family saw APO, NY on every correspondence I ever sent – whether from USAREUR, or “temporary duty in an unspecified location”. And there were a few of those…

    So hold on to that hope John. It may have been the oversight of a primarily “un-military” family member – trying to make the best of what they knew.

  9. L.T.B. wrote…My father was one of the first Marine officers to enter Vietnam during the “secret” war period. He went in early 1962, TDY’d from Point Magu, CA CBC (SeeBees, Sir!) to “Okinawa”…

    I just looked up my first deployment…

    BounBeng/Phu Tuc, Phu Bon Province—13.23N 108.26W BQ14848 Mission: CIDG CSF: VN/BAHNAR/JARI POP: BAHNAR/JARI A1/213 (TDY) LO T-103 dtd 07/27/1962—

    One helluva twelve man team… actually brings a tear to this olde soldiers eye…when I think back about those fine soldiers.

    Later in the mission, we split into two six man teams to facilitate training in two different sectors.

    God and I luv yah, gentlemen, dead and alive…HOOAAH…!

  10. Lipton T. Bagg

    My father passed away several years ago. He survived Pearl Harbor, serving in the Pacific Theater during WWII – including Operation Watchtower, one live-fire tour in Korea and early Vietnam.

    Cigarettes and cancer finally did what no enemy was able to do, kill off that tough-ass old Marine. RIP Dad, we’ll see you soon – but I hope not too soon…


  11. Al l my very best to your Daddy, LTB…!

    I served with one helluva fine, intelligence, Sergeant in Vietnam. He had also served in Korea. I don’t think he’d mind if I mentioned his name…Alex Fontez…!

    Hey Alex… you were one of the finest mentors I ever had with respect to the art of warcraft. Thank you Alex for your bravery, courage and infinite knowledge… I shall forever be in your debt…

    Gotchrod, the geezer… sends all my very, very best, Alex…

    Where ever you are azzhole…!

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