“You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray…” Quotation attributed to Rush Limbaugh is a damnable lie

This is news that you will not see anywhere else.


First, the quote and the date that it was supposedly made by Rush: “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed. [4/23/98]”  Rush never said it. It was made up back in about 2005 and this article proves it.


I am no computer research guru, but I was able to track down enough to prove that this quote first arose back in the fall of 2005, and there is no evidence of the quote before that date. Bottom line, it is inconceivable that such a quote was made by Rush Limbaugh back in 1998 and then never got any attention on the internet or elsewhere until 2005.


Here is what I found, taken directly from articles found on the internet, with citations so you can look it up if you want.







 The earliest mention of the alleged quote was on September 9th, 2005 by zedlappy  who wrote this about what Rush allegedly said:


You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed. [4/23/98]”


 “zedlappy” cited to a Wikipedia article as his source. For those newbys, Wikipedia is a cite that anybody can make shit up and it gets quoted as authority by idiots. Hereafter, every time I reference the Wikipedia article I am talking about this one. Unfortunately, it apparently has been edited many times since 2005, so we can’t know exactly what it said then. But now it attributes the quote to Rush Limbaugh, but lists it as “DISPUTED” because the article currently lists the source of the quote to a book “101 Persons who are really SCREWING up America” by (2006) by Jack Huberman.  Hereinafter I’ll call the book “101 Persons.”  But note, the book came out in 2006 so it could not possibly be the source of the original Wikipedia article! ALSO NOTE: The Huberman book does not list a source!


 


 On 9/22/05 [again before the book “101 Persons” was published] somebody calling himself “Cobra” lists the exact same quote and cited as his authority the exact same Wikipedia article!


 


 “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed. [4/23/98]”


 



 A few days later on 10/08/05, on another blog site, the same guy, “Cobra” made the same quote (hard to read because print is so small)! And guess what, he cited the same Wikipedia article that lists the quote as disputed! Again, this was before the book “101 People…” came out. 


 A week later, on a different blog, “Cobra” did the same thing!


On 11/12/05 [STILL before the book came out] someone calling themselves “Voter” wrote the exact same quote: “You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed.? [The Rush Limbaugh Show 4/23/98] 


 Evidently, “Cobra” was still making this exact same claim in 2006 ON A STILL DIFFERENT blog site, when he was contemporaneously busted for making this shit all up! Pay attention, the following is taken directly from a comment back on 7/31/06:


 2/3 way down the site:


 [Cobra wrote:] “myself find it hard to have sympathy for a guy who makes quotes like:


““You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed. [4/23/98]”


“Cobra


“It took me five minutes to research google on that quote and in several of the links on the very first google page it was cited by, guess who… Cobra himself. (And that is without adding “cobra” to the search terms.) And he’s been citing it going on a year now. If anyone is wondering why Cobra doesn’t provide a link, it’s not because he doesn’t want to. You see, he did often link, in the prior citations ( at LaShawn’s, for instance, on 10/08/06) to a Wikiquote article that now does not contain his cited quote. My guess is that someone edited a phony Limbaugh quote into Limbaugh’s entry and then Wikiquote removed it when they realized that it was a phony. No media source links. No transcript links.


“Limbaugh never said any such thing, obviously, or it would have been all over the media, and certainly I would not have found Cobra himself to be a main source on so many blogs if it was even considered a decent, if dishonest, slander against Limbaugh.”

 

“Limbaugh is a loud brash voice, one that I sometimes find myself in disagreement with, and one whose tone I quite often disagree with, but he would never falsely quote even his worst antagonist, especially with such ugly words. But such behavior seems to be within the bounds for Limbaugh’s critics.”

“I can’t say I’m surprised to see your fingerprints on something as despicable as this, Cobra. I’m not shaking off any sense of shock.


“I think that falsely quoting anyone, let alone a public figure, is scumbag behavior. And Cobra has been making a habit of doing it to Limbaugh for a year now.


 [Cobra tries to defend himself, saying he was citing Huber the author and an article on HuffPo discussing the book and which cited it, but the writer was relentless, saying it was Cobra who first made up the quote and the author then put it in his book. NOTE: Cobra was trying to attribute the quote to “101 Persons” and a HuffPo article about the book but both the book and HuffPo article came out in 2006! And Cobra had been repeating the quote since 2005.]


 “Cobra, I did a little search on that James Earl Ray quote from Limbaugh. What I see is you, over and over, quoting that temporary Wikipedia thing like it’s the Encyclopedia Brittanica, and spreading it all over the blogosphere.


Thou shalt not bear false witness.”


AND, as if that wasn’t enough, I found where two other people discredited the quote back in 2005!






First, one person did not believe the quote and did some research about it back on or before 10/13/05 (comment is not dated, but a comment about the comment is dated 10/13/05):


  Quote:







Originally Posted by Mike Smash!


“You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed.” [4/23/98] — Rush on Martin Luther King’s assassin.



“I’m with Samurai in calling BS on this quote.

“To begin with, it’s so insanely bigoted on its face that I can’t conceive that there wouldn’t have been an uproar at the time. And that it would then take seven years for us to hear of it.

It doesn’t appear anywhere in the Google Usenet archives. That’s automatically suspicious. A Google web search (my specific search was “we miss you james” + limbaugh) produced a whopping 10 results. All of which are dated within the last three months, and most of which credit WikiQuote as their source.

“I checked the history for the WikiQuote page. This quote was added on July 20, less than three months ago. Whoever inserted it originally gave the date as “2/21/03.” Then a couple of minutes later it was changed to “4/23/98





.” That’s the day Ray died. The user who contributed is this guy. His contributions are limited to really nasty quotes attributed to Rush, Hannity, and Karl Rove.

And surprise: just minutes before he posted the Ray quote to Wiki, he also posted this quote of yours:

“I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.”[3/14/03] Rush on slavery.





AND




this one:

“I’ll tell you who should be tortured and killed at Guantanamo: every filthy Democrat in the U.S. Congress.” — Sean Hannity again…





“Both of which, like the Ray quote, appear nowhere in Google’s Usenet Archive. Each has even fewer hits on a Google web search than the Ray quote, and both only in posts made since July 20.” END OF QUOTE FROM THAT BLOG.

 

 “Well researched, Loren. I did Google searches too, and like you found that they only appear on Wikipedia. I didn’t know they were all from the same person, though… that pretty much clinches it IMO”


“All of those are fake.”

“Edit: Someone else has already removed the 2 Rush quotes and I just removed the Hannity one. I saw several others there that are highly suspicious, though I left them alone.”

 

 __________________
The new Axis of Evil: Obama, Pelosi, and Reid






Last edited by Samurai : 10-13-2005 at 05:22 PM.


End of quotes.


 So, it appears to John Doe that this hullaballoo is all about a bogus quote that was made up back sometime in 2005, and has been repeated several times since then. It was recently quoted by Max Blumenthal thusly: he has called for a “posthumous Medal of Honor” for the assassin of Martin Luther King, Jr., James Earl Ray,  The Blumental article was then mindlessly picked up and passed off as the truth by RockDem today.



I told those people at RockDem that it was a fake quote, but they have yet to take it down. Because it was false, I made a later post about Bubby being a hillbilly pedophile, just to show him how easy it is to make stuff up on the internet.  


IMPORTANT UPDATE 5/12/09: Irish student intentionally made a false quote on Wikipedia and attributed it to a person who had just died. Newspapers around the world immediately began lifting the quote directly from Wikipedia and using it in the man’s obituary without in any way attempting to find if it was correct. 


 “I was really shocked at the results from the experiment,” Fitzgerald, 22, said Monday in an interview a week after one newspaper at fault, The Guardian of Britain, became the first to admit its obituarist lifted material straight from Wikipedia.


“I am 100 percent convinced that if I hadn’t come forward, that quote would have gone down in history as something Maurice Jarre said, instead of something I made up,” he said. “It would have become another example where, once anything is printed enough times in the media without challenge, it becomes fact.”


 Wow. He just proved my point.



 


 


 


 


 


 


 



138 responses to ““You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray…” Quotation attributed to Rush Limbaugh is a damnable lie

  1. You can in fact view old versions of Wikipedia articles. The quote in question is at this site:http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Rush_Limbaugh&oldid=110837
    This is the September 8, 2005 edition of this article.

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  3. If you think Rush is a racist…you should talk with Bo Snerdly. After all, Bo Snerdly’s Mother is balck, his Father is black as a matter of fact, all of Bo Snerdlys brother and sisters are black.

    As far as I can tell, Bo is one of Rushes best friends. Who else do you know of who is paid to sit there while Rush is on the air to talk with Rush about what is going on?

  4. Also on the “If you think Rush is a racist…” front – you should talk with Walter Williams, who has frequently guest hosted for Rush.

  5. LaVerne Chapman

    I am a 75 year old white female, and I think that I have been around long enough to recognize a racist. Mr. Rush Limbough does NOT fit that profile. Get real people!

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  8. Just heard it debunked on NPR. Yup. Liberal commie pinko NPR absolutely and unequivocally debunked it.

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  10. Would a Racist have a Black Man (Snerdley) as his right-hand? Would a Racist have black men as good friends?

    Those of us who have listened to Rush for 20+ years know who he is and what he says and what he really stands for. This is simply an attack by the left to take the only true public voice of the silent Majority. They think if they take Rush out the others don’t have a leg to stand on.

    Most people who vote Democrat are just politically lazy.

  11. Yes, Carmen, I agree 100%. The very reason that I undertook to do the research behind this article was because I KNEW that he would never say anything like that. When you listen to him as often and as long as I have, you come to know him, almost as a friend. The same way that I would defend a friend, I researched this to defend him from what I knew were spurious accusations even before I did the research.

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  14. Snopes is worth checking to ferret out public-statement lies and e-mail hoxes. Here’s their research on this and other Rush “racist” quotes:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp

    Also worth checking:

    http://www.factcheck.org/

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

    As you can see, Snopes find this a false quote, others true.

    My take on your “damnable lie made up by liberals:” yes, this one is. But it’s worth noting (my take on things) that 98% of the e-mail lies I receive and check out are conservative-oriented. That may be because I’m a conservative Christian and have a lot of e-mail friends of that persuasion.

    For Christians, at least, the point is TRUTH, which Jesus said He is. Doesn’t matter what faction the lies come from (I don’t have a dog in that fight): all are ultimately the work of Satan, “the father of lies.” In that regard, a lot of Christians are doing Satan’s work under the deception that they’re being “conservative” in doing so.

    I have no dog in the factions’ fight: it’s a fight that does our country a vast amount of harm. But, to my experience, the “conservative” public statements and e-mails that feed the divisive controversies so destructive of Americans’ unity, are virtually all lies.

  15. I suppose the question here is did Rush make a racist remark and is he racist. As for me… No, I don’t believe he made the remark in question..on his radio talk show! No, I don’t believe he is a racist either but, today you don’t have to be a racist to make a remark that some would define as racist. Let’s be honest…Rushhhh shhh is good at making remarks that insinuats views that still allows him to deny he actually said them. Sooo everyone googles to find the facts. As a concervative myself…I don’t feel concervatives DO NOT need to resort to lies when confronting liberals or progresives if your a Glen Beck fan. Here’s a statement that Rushhhhhh started you can google: “did Obama fire  the CEO of GM”. I am a concervative republican and as such am offended when the left lies about anyone in the right no matter how radical they are but when the radicals lie they are only asking for the same in return and by such actions are bad for the concervative cause!

  16. Videoman, I only take issue with one phrase, and that is that Rush makes statements that insinuate views that he can still deny. NO PART of his being is racist, period. Does he say things to rile up the politically correct, the Feminazis and the elites? Yes. But just because they–the self-appointed arbiters of what is and isn’t politically correct–object to his statements do not make them racist. I don’t take it that you meant that he is racist, but if you did, I think that you are dead wrong.

  17. Oh no, don’t misunderstand…I am NOT saying Rushhhhhh shhhhh is a racist! I personally feel there is racist out in America but today you don’t have to be one to be viewed as one. Typical example could be seen in a VH1 production where two familys one white and one black were made up to change their skin color and lived each others lives. The black family seen raceism in things the white family didnt. They seen what they wanted to see. Rushhhhhh insinuates and makes comments that invites attacks then those like he and Beck wine when being attacked. He and Beck never actually “said” Obama was a NAZI however several times he made comparisons between Obama and Hitler. It may not be the same thing but it does insinuate the connection. This type of reporting does not put concervatism in a good light!!!

  18. I paraphrase the Liberal hero Lenin;
    “if you repeat the lie long enough and loud enough it becomes the ‘truth'”
    Based on my experiance, and observation, to a liberal “truth” is whatever they and the overly leftist media says it is.

  19. helllo – don’t listen to Rush Limbaugh; frankly, don’t much care for what I have heard.

    However, it should be easy to verify, or not, that Limbaugh made these remarks.

    After all, the alleged date of the quote is included with it. Are there not logs or transcripts, even recordings, that could prove it one way or the other?

  20. I believe that they keep a copy of every show in “The EIB archives.”

    And you should listen to him. Take the Limbaugh challenge, and listen for a couple of weeks. He grows on you. Don’t believe the hype from those who despise him.

  21. Can’t speak for others but i took the limbaugh challange in the 80’s/ 90’s and became a fan of Rush but like others have noticed and contrary to what he wants his fans to know….he has moved to the radical right! Don’t get me wrong…he still makes very good and useful  points from time to time but not like he used to. For instance, not long ago he wasted an entire show on Obamas use of teleprompters. Tell me one public speaker including Bush that doesn’t use teleprompters, Q cards, ear pieces and speach writers. This is NOT the Rush of old. This is new Rush!!! This is Rush the Liberals want to be seen as the leader, the voice of the Republican party. If that was the case I fear the future of the concervative movement!

  22. You know, that Cobra guy who started all this, he apparently linked to his website through his forum user name. He runs http://www.thecobraslair.com and the registration info says his name is Darren Johnson. He’s a freelance cartoonist from New Jersey. Maybe Rush should look into taking this guy to court for slander.

  23. Videoman, I don’t agree with everything that he says (cigars and talk of golf bore me) but he does a lot more good than bad. What I won’t do is sit around while the left savages him, without me doing whatever I can to defend h im.

    Anoymous, GREAT CATCH!

  24. Videoman…you, sir, are nothing more than a seminar commenter.

  25. I agree Rushhhhhh is capable of so much more than he is doing now because today I have to listen to Rush, Beck, Lavine and Hanity for a week before I get what Rush used to put out in one 3 HR show. Sure he does some good for instance when he countered the infamious Harry Reed letter was classic as was his info how the health bill would be attached to another to get it passed but when he makes what a sub concervative radio host called “bonehead” remark like he hoped Obama would fail or insinuate getting the H1N1 virus shot was a stupid thing to do…chips away at his dwindeling credibility. Heck, even Glenn Beck didn’t go that far!!! It’s no wonder the left want Rush associated as the voice of the right. There for a short while Rush bought into that too!

  26. I think we all know Rush Limbaugh does everything he can to be outrageous, combative, controversial, overbearing, etc. Drawing attention to himself, and polarizing people about himself, is how he makes his living.

    Does he actually BELIEVE all the statements he makes, or honestly FEEL all the attitudes he espouses ? It doesn’t matter: Rush Limbaugh is not the point, and loving him or hating him is beside the point…especially since we all agree he DID NOT make the statement that started this discussion.

    The original blog we’ve all responded to expressed outrage (and invited our outrage) at the fact that liberals told a “damnable lie.” My question remains: was the blogger (and should we be) outraged that it was liberals, or that it was a lie ? I’ve expressed myself on which is properly “damnable,” and why.

  27. Ya see, Videoman, the devil is in the details. Now that you give details, such as you think the “I hope Obama fails” remark was boneheaded, NOW I can address your remarks. I agree with Rush. I HOPE Obama fails to foist crap and trade tax on us. I HOPE Obama fails to foist ObamaCare on us. I HOPE Obama fails to foist queers in the military on us, and the repeal of the defense of marriage act on us, and liberal judges on us. ANYBODY who “wants him to succeed” with his liberal agenda is no friend of mine. Now, did the liberals savage him over the remark? Of course. But they don’t need an excuse to savage any conservative. I say, be a man, face up to the liberal animals, fight them, don’t sit back and criticize those who are fighting them. The Realizer might be correct…

  28. Steve, I think no matter who said the “damnable lie” deserves our outrage. The fact that it was most likely a liberal only adds fuel to the fire.

  29. The number one thing about Rush and some but not all of his fans is that I disagree with is you have to agree with EVERYTHING he says or out come the name calling or get labeled moderate or liberal. I hate to say it but Rush isn’t the masiah! I am and always have been a true concervative. Yes, the orginal point was liberals passing on the spacific lie a damnable offence….yes it is! Should Rush be allowed to buy a football team …yes. Do I think he really seriously concidered doing so….not in a million years! When a person puts themselves in the public eye and make remarks that have been labled “bonehead”” …by the way not my remark” they better expect attacks and not wine about it. I’ll defend someone who tries to dodge the mud but when the paint a target on themselves…stand back and let them take the mud!!! If I am critical of Rush it’s because I want the Rush of the 80’s-90’s and not the radical EIB extremist in broadcasting we have today.

  30. I do not agree with EVERYTHING that Rush says. I am a trial lawyer. Rush despises trial lawyers, and thinks that they are all scum sucking liberals. Most are, but I defy the stereo-type.

    Uh, I disagree with you that Rush has changed. He is still a conservative. He opposed much of what GW did, except the attack on Iran. He opposed Harriott Myers, the Farm Bill, No Child Left Behind, “Kinder gentler conservatism”, the liberal attack on the Dubais ports deal, Bush’s refusal to close the borders, etc. etc. yada yada yada. Unless you can point to something tangible, I’m gonna have to call BULL SHIT on your claim that Rush has changed over the years.

    And no, when somebody puts themselves in the public eye they still have a right to whine about being lied about, with quotations that are completely made up out of whole cloth. Nobody opens themselves up to being lied about, son.

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